2/27/2008
Westgate Resorts Scam-David Siegel- Robert Paisola Responds
EXCLUSIVE- WESTGATERESORTSBANKRUPTCY.COM
UPDATED OCTOBER 11, 2012
READ ALL THE LATEST UPDATES HERE:
http://timesharescamsupdate.blogspot.com/2012/10/welcome-to-westgateresortsbankruptcycom.html
APRIL 2012 LEGAL UPDATE:
http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/0623123/090127westgatestiporder.pdf
OCTOBER 2010 UPDATE
http://timesharescamsupdate.blogspot.com/2010/09/hey-david-siegel-westgate-resorts-you.html
and
May 2010 UPDATE
It seems that David Siegel is getting very nervous about this worldwide post to this site. We simply thought that you, the American Public, deserves to know what this man is now trying so hard to do.
David Siegel has hired people all over the world to try to get us to stop talking about his company Westgate Resorts, and how many people that they have screwed over. He says that he is loosing money because of our coverage. Well, David, you you have the 200 hours of tapes that we have FROM YOUR OWN EMPLOYEES telling us what you do and how you operate your companies, you would never let up either. So, now that we are clear, lets take a moment to simply reaffirm WHY WE TELL PEOPLE TO NEVER EVER EVER Buy a timeshare from Westgate Resorts or David Siegel. Because you WILL be screwed and if you have recently signed a contract, we suggest that you immediately visit http://www.WesternCapitalVIP.com and get in touch with us.
Now, to those of you who wonder what we are trying to tell you.. it boils down to this... NEVER EVER EVER DO BUSINESS WITH DAVID SIEGAL OR WESTGATE RESORTS OR ANY OF THEIR SCAM COMPANIES...
This is what has been happening over the past month:
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See, he is using a company to try to remove us as the number one item that appears when you type "david siegel" into GOOGLE. Notice that he is using people in other countries to cover his tracks.
So, Now we will begin a 10 Part International 7 Language Series about Westgate Resorts, their employees, live interviews, Live Shoots, The Famous "David Siegel House" or "David Seagle House"
David... Stop this stuff NOW! You are only digging a bigger problem for your company. Why in the hell would ANYONE in America want to trust you now David Siegel?
You can see our results at www.TimeShareChronicles.com , www.WesternCapitalNews.com , Facebook.com/RobertPaisola and MyCollector.com
It is your choice... Notice how FAST THIS GOES AROUND THE WORLD DAVID SIEGEL? as you try to suppress the TRUTH.
If you signed a document with Westgate Resorts, Planet Hollywood, Consolidated Resorts, Artie Spector or any of their affiliated companies, you had better contact us today
class.action@westerncapitalvip.com
DAVID SIEGEL, Westgate Scam CEO
Mr. Paisola
I found your site among many others that include people who have been ripped off by Westgate. We also didn't know about the ten-day cancellation period until it was way too late. We purchased ours in Orlando on 7/19/07. They sold us a unit that hadn't even been built yet, but we were told that we could always use a different one in the meantime. Later, we found out that you can use an alternate as long as you pay a hefty penalty for not using your own unit. We were also told that real estate is an "investment", but after my research online, I see that Westgate's owner (David Siegel) claims that they tell people it's a prepaid vacation. I'm sure he knows that his employees don't really tell people that. They also encourage you to post flyers offering $99 vacations. They say you can earn "trupoints" by putting your account number on these & getting credit when people redeem them. When you read through their fine print later, you see that you have to give them a list of names that will be using the $99 vacation or else you can't get credit for them. If you are putting these flyers up in random areas such as WalMart bulletin boards, how can you give Westgate a list of names? Obviously you can't, and they know it. Just another one of their scams. I noticed in one of your posted responses to somebody else that it could be considered fraud that Westgate shows on the sales paperwork that the deposit was paid in full on the sales date even though we had a payment plan on the deposit that went through October. Did you figure out a way to get the other people out of it? Have any attorneys perhaps come forward with plans for a class action suit against them? I would love to be part. I hate to think I gave them nearly 3 grand and got nothing for it.
Cassandra
Cassandra: Our Editors just found this letter that was authored by David Siegel in 2001. We can not believe what we are reading, so we are going to post it again here for our readers. For 7 Years Westgate Resorts has been screwing people? Where is the litigation? Where are the indictments? and most importantly, Where the hell is CNN, NBC, Dateline and the boys. Well, welcome to 2008 boys and girls...here we go again!
An Open Letter To The Editor Of The Timeshare Beat (Not this site)
September 28, 2001
Dear Sir:
I hope you have the guts to print this letter.
I am an avid reader of your distorted timeshare report as are most of my colleagues in the timeshare industry as well as many thousands of current and potential timeshare owners. I, as the President of Westgate Resorts, am tired of being your whipping boy. I consider my company a very reputable one and take offense with your unfounded allegations. At first I took the attitude that any response would only give credibility to the ludicrous statements. But, now, after months of your continuous assaults, I feel I need to respond even if the response falls on deaf ears.
To begin with, we pride ourselves on being one of the pioneer timeshare companies. We also pride ourselves on the fact that in our 20-year history we have never failed to meet a payroll. Many of our employees have been with us from the very beginning, attesting to the fact that we treat our employees extremely well. In fact, our employees are among the highest paid people in our industry. With over 6,000 employees, there will always be a few disgruntled ones. When we are made aware of a problem, we are quick to resolve it. In most cases, we are able to.
It seems that you are hung up on reserve accounts and charge backs. Let me explain to you why this is not only necessary but critical to the survival of our industry as it currently exists. We sell anyone that can come up with a minimum 10% down payment, regardless of whether they are credit worthy or not. We do not run a credit check and, therefore, our salespeople have no credit rejects. The next day we give the salesman an advance of 50% of their commission, even before the customer's check has cleared the bank. Our experience has shown that many of our purchasers have an unsatisfactory credit history. Rather than reject a sale that a salesman has worked so hard to make because of credit, we accept everyone. Therefore, the reason for having charge backs. Once the purchaser has made six consecutive timely payments, the salesman is no longer on the hook for a charge back even though we have to receive many years of payments just to recover our cost of the sale. Many of our competitors do credit checks at the time of purchase and reject everyone that does not have a perfect credit history and, as a result, don't have to charge back their salespeople. Years ago, when we gave this option to our sales staff they overwhelmingly opted for the charge backs.
In the case of reserve accounts, when a salesperson leaves the company, they are responsible for all commission advances that were made to them until every one of the sales has made the six consecutive timely payments. In most cases, the charge backs exceed the amount of money due the salesperson when they leave. In some cases where they do not, we pay the balance to the salesperson once every sale has been cleared. I receive many letters from ex-salespeople requesting their reserves and, in each case, I have my payroll person figure up their account and contact them.
This is a very competitive business. In order to remain successful and to continue meeting all our obligations, we must run a tight ship and react to problems instantly. Sometimes this means firing or shifting personnel from resort to resort and whatever other things we deem necessary to be efficient. We don't need "The Timeshare Beat" second guessing us or taking pot shots at our company. We have good valid reasons for everything we do and we are not accountable to you.
Your "Timeshare Beat" could be an asset to the timeshare industry as a common denominator for all the timeshare resorts. It could be valuable as a way for our industry to stay on top of current news, employment opportunities, and even investment opportunities.
Unfortunately, you decided to be more like the "National Enquirer," "The Globe," and "The Star" and distribute rumors, half-truths and innuendoes in your paper rather than helpful and informative information. What you are doing is a disservice to the entire industry. While we have tried so hard to build up credibility with the public for our industry, you are doing us tremendous harm. When the public reads all of the garbage that you put in your paper, how could they possibly think that timesharing is the best way for families to vacation? They must have the impression after reading "The Timeshare Beat" that no one can hold a job, everyone is sleeping with everyone, every resort is going bankrupt and there are few credible people still around. This is far from the truth. The truth is that the timeshare industry is very much alive and prospering. We are one of the few industries that have consistently grown from year to year. With the entry of Disney, Marriott, Hilton, Hyatt, Four Seasons, Ritz-Carlton, Starwood, Wyndham and, of course, Westgate Resorts, the industry has never enjoyed higher credibility than it does today, in spite of your muck raking commentaries. Our industry employs millions of good hard-working people from all walks of life and in every community across the country we create huge tax bases, support the local charities and create employment. Our owners come year round to enjoy the resorts, pay taxes, spend money in the community and don't burden school systems, libraries or community functions.
I am a strong advocate of a national public relations campaign where every person will come in contact with positive articles on timesharing and learn about the benefits of owning a timeshare vacation villa. Your "Timeshare Beat" could go a long way in being the spokesman for our industry if you used journalistic responsibility.
Of course, these are only my views but I am sure that they are shared by all of my fellow developers as well.
I dare you to print this letter in its entirety.
Sincerely,
David A. Siegel
President, CEO and Chairman of the Board
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This is another article that we wrote in December 2008 on David Siegel and Westgate Resorts:
This is an open letter to Mr. David A. Siegel, The CEO of Westgate Resorts.
Mr. Siegel:
Millions of people around the world have seen the video that is now on youtube showing the massive estate that you own and the abundance of wealth that you portray to have.
We have some questions for you that we have not been able to get answers on from your staff including but not limited to Barry W. Siegel, Tom Dugan, Mark Waltrip and David Crabtree
We are concerned about the thousands of people that have contacted our offices and in an open forum explain how they feel that they were abused by your company. They feel that they received nothing for their money, and they feel that the properties that they "bought into" are completely sub par, as opposed to what they were promised.
We refer you to The Westgate Vacation Villas Town Center , Buildings SSS and TP. We will be posting interior and exterior photos later for our readers, so that they are clear on these "5 Start Luxury Accommodations" that you provide.
Next, we are highly concerned about a lawsuit that your attorney Victor S. Kline of GREENSPOON MARDER, PA filed in Ocala County, Florida entitled : WESTGATE RESORTS, INC. VS DOE, JOHN Case 2008 CA 008314 OC
For your review and to memorialize this letter, we are attaching the full complaint and attachments for our friends at GOOGLE and your clients, employees, prospective employees and most importantly, the potential purchasers at the following Westgate Properties including:
Arizona
* MesaPainted Mountain Country Club
Florida
* Daytona BeachHarbour Beach Resort
* Orlando AreaBlue Tree Resort at LBV
* Lakes Resort & Spa
* Leisure Resort
* Palace
* River Ranch
* Towers
* Town Center
* Vacation Villas
* Miami AreaSouth Beach
Mississippi
* RobinsonvilleTunica Resort
Missouri
* Branson AreaBranson Garden Inn
* Branson Woods
* Emerald Pointe
Nevada
* Las VegasFlamingo Bay
South Carolina
* Myrtle BeachMyrtle Beach Resort
Tennessee
* GatlinburgSmoky Mountain Resort
Utah
* Park CityPark City Resort & Spa
Virginia
* WilliamsburgHistoric Williamsburg
This is a full and complete copy of the lawsuit that you filed against your employee(s)
After the posting of the pages, we will submit our questions for counsel, Victor S. Kline and your Corporate Counsel Michael E. Marder
This is the Full File in Adobe PDF Legal Format
If you take a moment to download the 19 page document that is located above and here:
This is the Full File in Adobe PDF Legal Format
You will see that your company is claiming that some very senior employees in your Organization have been accused of serious torts:
You state" When an owner purchases a Timeshare Unit from Westgate, Westgate DOES NOT record any documents in the public records until the expiration of ten (10) days so that a purchaser HAS THE RIGHT to rescind ANY PURCHASE. After the ten (10) day rescission period expires, Westgate DOES NOT NOT RECORD ANY DOCUMENTS WHICH BEAR THE OWNERS HOME, BUSINESS ADDRESS, EMAIL ADDRESS OR PHONE NUMBER. An owner of a Westgate Timeshare unit is identified in the public records ONLY BY NAME and the address of the WESTGATE RESORT where the owner purchased an interest."
You further state" Defendant JOHN DOE, (Your employee(s) ) contacted Ana Garcia and Nicole Papanier, customers of Westgate who had already signed purchase and sale agreements. In the emails, JOHN DOE, made DISPARAGING COMMENTS about WESTGATE and advised Ana Garcia and Nicole Papanier how to rescind agreements with Plaintiff. The Emails were sent less than 10 days after Ana Garcia and Nicole Papanier had signed these their agreements with Westgate"
These comments in your public pleadings and our subsequent interviews with members of your staff (not Senior Management mentioned above) indicate that you have a policy of Prohibiting your employees from counseling the buyers whom enter into agreements with your company on how to follow their legal rights under State Code to Rescind any transaction that they make with your sales team "in the heat of the moment"
Further, we have been advised that you have a three step system to ensure that a customer DOES NOT CANCEL:
These are Raw notes from our investigation that we will be reporting on at a later date:
-Used to use Deja Wint and then in Nov 2007 switched to the MR system
" The contracts dept (appx 10 people entered - with only local data entered the information and the Deeding Department ( Villas 16-23 Employees ) One employee of the 23 personally entered One Million Dollars on books each month. This is typical. The industry avg cancel rate is 20-25 percent.
"We are told to do whatever it takes to keep "on the books" including ...
If contract is lapsed Past 10 days and if no full down payment or no first payment then all employees are PROHIBITED TO teach or inform victim purchasers how to to rescind contract.
In a search of all US County Court Records there is NO RECORD of ANY Foreclosure action against a buyer (victim) " We have been told time and time again that David Siegel will not foreclose, as he will simply keep the down payment and resell again and again and again. This is verified with the county recorders of the local jurisdictions.
All of this is also validated in the Deja Wint System/ MR System Data, and is used corporate wide to document all purchases with Westgate. The data in Deja Wint/ MR System Data, will clearly show that there is a common scheme or thread to defraud, as by reselling the same piece of property over and over, and by keeping all monies paid, by the purchasing victims, that the money will remain unclaimed and that the consumer will simply GIVE UP and that the BLANKET REFUSAL POLICY to refund money to buyers and to PROHIBIT employees from assisting the "least sophisticated consumers" in maintaining their rights will ensure continued profitability.
Think John Grisham's Movie 'The Rainmaker', in which he pits Rudy Baylor, a lawyer fresh out of law school, against Great Benefit Insurance and its lawyer Leo Drummond in a bad-faith claim lawsuit. What really made this book is the Black vs. Great Benefit case, and how an insurance company would bend over backwards to not get caught in its own lies.
This works because of the policy of the Deeding Department Agent not being able to file the legal deed , giving your company, Westgate Resorts, the ability to resell the same parcel again and and again.
"This is why we can provide credit to any warm body that shows, regardless of their financial situation, because we could care less if they pay"
Now, If no payments are made by victim for 6 months (on time ) then the paper can not be resold to banks. Siegel (sic) holds paper for six months and dumps it on the secondary market to the banks. "The aging is completely inaccurate, but nobody knows this, so the banks buy the high interest paper" (see Deja Wint/ MR System Data)
"We have three methods of collections internally"
1. Pending to Good --- in first 90 days if the victim buyer does not pay the down payment or any payment then the Pending to Good team will try to collect."
2. If No Success is made at this level, the the file is returned to the Original Closing Officer - if in 90 days a victim buyer is 10 days late on any payment then the Closing Officer must collect the payment himself or herself or "we do not get paid"
"Closing officers are required by David Siegel to have $50.00 to $150.00 per day WITHHELD from pay to cover high cancellation percentages."
"On all pending to good accounts percentage. 99 percent of officers loose 50 to 150 per day because of PENDING NUMBERS" (see future story)
3. Collections Department - Used to be called The Now Team - Customer Service is what they call it, but it is Collections.
We used to have "The Win Back Team: - the purpose of this team is to win back the lost business and to get accounts reactivated... to WIN BACK BUSINESS"
Based on the above comments and the lawsuit that you have filed wherein you are planning to depose a former employee, we at the timeshare chronicles are concerned about what YOUR OWN EMPLOYEES ARE SAYING. We are concerned about the failure to deal fairly with the public in not only Florida, but in Las Vegas. You can read our stories on the horror that our clients experienced in Las Vegas.
The bottom line is that we want answers. We want to know what you are intending to do as a corporation to deal with all of the names that have been entered into the Deja Wint System / MR System Data that are unhappy. We want to know how many people simply "lost" the money that they paid you and received nothing. We want to know WHY you prohibit your employees from helping your customers understand the laws of rescission. We want to know why The Mother in Law of your Senior Executive was hired, and why 6 qualified people were terminated. (story to come)
Mr. Siegel, this is not a game of smoke and mirrors.
This is real life and real people are loosing money because of the games that your company is accused of playing. The court records from around the country and the confidential settlement agreements executed between your company and employees, victims and even victims of sexual abuse are now available for the public.
The bottom line is .... WHY? Just for a big house?
We hope that you take the time to respond.
Regards,
Robert Paisola
CEO
The Western Capital Foundation
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David siegel he is cheap men and scam he even cheat his worker to sad i work for him in Las vegas and i couldn't take all they lie which they told us to say about realestate and investment wowwww thanks god i'm not working for scam resort anymore they said that we are indepented contractor and 1099 and if we are 1099 why they give us working hour and they sai we have to be there during working hour ??? because he is cheap and we paid his tax cheap jews stay away from westgate resort they do do hoest business.
David Siegel is not only cheating the owners but also his employees.I also worked for him in las vegas and I agree whit every thing you are saying .They lie to all the sales agents about not closing Flamingo Bay and in January they did.
The West Gate broker Einer Stoknes also lie on the time share sales agent termination notice on the circumstances surrounding the discharge or termination by saying they quit when in reality we were terminated.
They did the same thing at there Resor at colonial Williamsburg where sales people are employees with W2 and denied Unemployment saying the quit voluntarily.This men dos not have a conscious
I have been fitting with West Gate
to collect my unemployment sence January 09. West Gate lied to the employment comission saing i voluntairally quit when in reality i was in a true lived of absence.next month i have my apple and I hired a lawyer to represent me.I know i am going to went my case.I almost lost my house do to this men.Some body has to stop him.he stills not only to the owners but also to his employees.
My wife was just terminated due to no tours coming into an FL resort. They are denying her unemployment claim. I also worked there some time back and they 'laid' me off due to the bad economy, then denied my unemployment. You think you are working for a decent company, then they kick you to the dirt and keep what you earned. I cannot afford a lawyer, so I will just be evicted if I canot find work in this 9% + unemployment rate state.
I am a consumer of a Westgate resort…to be precise: Planet Hollywood Towers in Las Vegas. I “purchased” this so called American investment over four years ago and not once did I stay at the resort. I was offered several opportunities to stay at other resorts, yup you guessed it either they wanted more money even though I supposedly already paid or they cancelled the reservations made on three occasions. I have been trying to sell this horrendous thorn in my side and all I have gotten was even more shafted by people who say they are part of Westgate for hundreds of dollars I do not have. By the sounds of it some of Westgate’s employee’s got the shaft too. Does anyone know of a sure fire way to get this monkey off my back…meaning get rid of this timeshare so I can move on with my life!!!! Please send advice to: me2dreamn@sbcglobal.net
My husband & I bought a timeshare at Westgate in Orlando, FL, in 2004. We were very green and naive and despite our many protests, they successfully manipulated and pressured us into buying a timeshare. Shortly after we did, we regretted our decision. They made it seem like it was going to be such an investment and it did nothing but put us into debt on our credit cards.
We have been back twice since signing up for the timeshare and both times we went, the unit had things broken and it looked very worn. It was more stressful than relaxing.
When we complained about it, they had the nerve to tell us that if we didn't like it we should upgrade. Can you believe it?!? If the money we have been spending all this time is not good enough to guarantee a unit that is clean and where everything is working, why on earth would we spend more!?
On our second visit, we agreed we would not waste our time going to the Sales Meeting. We KNEW that we wouldn't upgrade. Their sales rep called several times a day! They wouldn't stop calling and then they threatened to call the police to "make sure we were okay"!
So we agreed we would go, tell them we won't upgrade and leave. They assured it wouldn't take long and that I simply must come for their "world famous" breakfast for which people from miles around come to partake. When we got there, their "breakfast" was overcooked cold scrambled eggs and congealed sausage.
We wasted no time and told them off the bat, "we are not upgrading so don't waste your breath trying to sell us." They sent 3 people and we told each one the same thing. Then they brought out their "big gun" manager who was a particularly offensive man with multiple gold chains and rings and bragging about how his daughter just graduated from an ivy league school. There was no way we were giving these people ANY MORE of our hard earned money. I looked around the room and the word I kept hearing in my head was "sharks". They don't care if you are trying to save for a home (which is what we told them), they don't care if you are caring for elderly parents, they don't care if you have a terminal disease. They just want to manipulate you and take your money. Once you do, it is very difficult to back out on it.
I looked around at all the families locked into this meeting. They looked beaten and pressured. I just wanted to yell, "Run and free yourselves! Don't listen to them; it's a trap! Save yourself now! Take it from someone who is locked in and praying to get out!"
Anyhoo, basically my question is, is there any way we can get out of this timeshare hell without getting conned and robbed by the whole timeshare sales vortex where they ask for hundreds and thousands just to "advertise" and not sell your timeshare??? We get calls all the time from these companies and they cannot guarantee anything....
PS: What made matters worse, we saw a You Tube video about David Siegel, owner and founder of Westgate, who is a multi-billionaire living in a $100 million house - while tens of thousands of gullible families are being put into debt by ruthless and shady selling practices. Please send comments to dionnebsmith@yahoo.com.
...... I work for Westgate in las Vegas I need that money they never pay on overtime and for tours I can rant for Westgate all day that's a another day ,Westgate you suck in marketing they never care for workers.
Westgate go to hell and be a good company not cheap
YOU SHOULD KNOW SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT WESTGATE,THEY DO NOT DO BACKGROUND CHECKS ON THE EMPLOYEES.I WORKED FOR WESTGATE,AND WAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY A SUPERVISOR,NOT ONLY WAS I NOT THE FIRST VICTIM BUT WHY I REFUSED TO GO BACK BECAUSE THIS MAN WAS STILL ON PROPERTY (AMOUNG YOUR WIFES AND CHILDREN)3 MONTHS AFTER HE ASSAULTED ME HE ASSAULTED ANOTHER FEMALE EMPLOYEE....SO ADD THAT TO THE WESTGATE STORIES......NOT OLY DO THEY RIP THE VISITORS OFF BUT ALSO THE EMPLOYEES...THIS MAN THAT DID THIS STILL GOT TO RECIEVE A PAYCHECK,WHY I STAYED HOME BECAUSE I DID NOT FEEL SAFE WITH MY CHILDREN WITH NO MONEY COMING IN.....
Westgate in las Vegas makes it virtually impossible to make money.
I had to basically stop working for them and now they are threatening me with a lawsuit.
I keep hearing they are bei g sold to wydham.
Any way for Robert to help me?
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I worked for In house over at westgate PH they make us lie and talk about investment and rental in order to sell it that is crazy that's god i'm not part of that anymore i don't want to lie to sell and beside that they keept my money and didn't pay but i will show them i will go to PH and tell people not to buy anything all they do lie lie lie stay away from westgate
For the Anonymous person who made the comment and ended it with the "Jews" thing.
FUCK YOU!!!
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