Hi Robert,
I love your website and am so glad you are fighting for the ordinary people who are getting ripped off due to Westgate. We were brainwashed into getting a timeshare in 2004 and have not been able to get rid of it so far. I live in London and have only been once in 2008. Then Westgate tried to sell us another timeshare only this time I was 100% wiser and they really worked hard for their money and got nothing out of me. We now are using a timeshare company recommended by Westgate to give it away for nothing just to get out of the deal legally. We have paid money up front to 2 other timeshare organizations in the USA and one in the UK with no success at getting rid of it. The whole ordeal has completely put me off the USA. There are people here in the UK who are just going to stop paying their maintenance fees but will refuse to give Westgate their deeds back so they can't sell them on to some other fool. I worry about this as I am an honest person. I now trust no-one which is a shame as I look back now and realize what Westgate is - one big scam. Can you include people in the UK in your fight? I know other people who would gladly join your fight.
Regards
Audrey
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9/20/2010
6/14/2010
David Siegel and Westgate Resorts Hit The Dust: Robert Paisola Reports
10.11.12 Update
You Have to Read the News Update!
http://timesharescamsupdate.blogspot.com/2012/10/welcome-to-westgateresortsbankruptcycom.html
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The David Siegel, Westgate Resorts, Case Update, Robert Paisola
Mr. Paisola, I bought a Westgate Resorts Timeshare and now I am being screwed. Can you help me?
Yep! This is the first of a series of articles that will show you just what went on inside the David Siegel Westgate Resorts Semi-Empire. First, lets look at how all of your money that you worked so hard for has been spent....
THE MONEY TRAIL SPEAKS:
As of June 2010, David Siegel is being disgorged of his profits that he has made during his reign as the owner of Westgate Resorts. This is an article that was recently published in the national media.
"Time-share mogul Siegel's assets open to the public"
The auction house that's hawking $350 million worth of property owned by time-share mogul David Siegel is opening the properties for public inspection.
Carlton Exchange says it has organized open houses for the top assets in the portfolio, including several in Central Florida. Siegel has said the assets are extraneous to his core business of time-share development and management.
"We've already received offers," said Scott Stay, a Carlton senior vice president. "We're starting to see that the market is turning, buyers are out."
•Grenelefe Resort, a golf-and-tennis resort in Polk County, Thursday and April 29.
•Westgate River Ranch, a 1,700-acre dude ranch near the Kissimmee River in Polk County, Friday and April 30.
•The Ramada, April 27.
In addition to the hospitality assets, Siegel is selling multifamily properties, vacant land and office space. Indicative bids are due April 30. More information is available online.
These are photos of the Home of David Siegel and his former wife Jacqueline Siegel known as The Lake Butler Mansion:
The David Siegel House Listing States:
The following resorts are part of the Westgate Resorts Franchise that are listed on the Westgate Resorts Website. This list will certainly be part of any proceedings on a David Siegel Bankruptcy, a Westgate Resorts Bankruptcy, or a David Siegel Federal Indictment or a Westgate Resorts FBI Investigation or Westgate Resorts Federal Indictment. Have Fun in Federal Prison Mr. Siegel. You do not have enough money to pay off the United States Federal Government.
If you are a victim of David Siegel , Jacqueline Siegel and Westgate Resorts Watch this video and Email us at vip@westerncapitalvip.com
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/3954571/10735429
•Westgate River Ranch, a 1,700-acre dude ranch near the Kissimmee River in Polk County, Friday and April 30.
•The Ramada, April 27.
In addition to the hospitality assets, Siegel is selling multifamily properties, vacant land and office space. Indicative bids are due April 30. More information is available online.
These are photos of the Home of David Siegel and his former wife Jacqueline Siegel known as The Lake Butler Mansion:
Pricing options for David Siegel's House AKA: Versailles
- $100MM FINISHED BASED ON THE ROYAL PALACE OF LOUIS XIV OF THE 17TH CENTURY OR TO THE BUYERS SPECIFICATIONS.
- $75MM AS IS WITH ALL EXTERIOR FINISHING IN CRATES IN THE 20 CAR GARAGE ON SITE.
The Home is being sold by Lorraine Barrett of Coldwell Banker.
VERSAILLES IS THE LARGEST MODERN DAY PALACE UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN AMERICA. 90,000SF UNDER ONE ROOF,SITUATED ON 10+ ACRE PENISULA WITH 1.4 MILE OF PRISTINE SHORELINE ON LAKE BUTLER OF THE FAMED BUTLER CHAIN OF LAKES. 13 BEDRM, 23 BA, 20 CAR GARAGE & 3 POOLS. $100MM FINISHED TO BUYERS SPECIFICATIONS. $75MM "AS IS" BASED ON THE ROYAL RESIDENCE OF LOUIS XIV OF 17TH CENTURY AS SHOWN IN RENDERINGS. THE RESIDENCE IS 200x200 AND 67FT TALL. UNPARALLELED FEATURES INCLUDE LARGE BOATHOUSE, FORMAL GARDENS, 1 STORY GATEHOUSE WITH APT. BASEBALL FIELD, 2 TENNIS COURTS,60x120 GRAND HALL WITH 30FT STAINED GLASS DOME, 2 GRAND STAIRCASES, 37X30 KITCHEN, 10 SATELLITE KITCHENS, 2 STORY WINE CELLAR, ROCK GROTTO WITH 3 SEPARATE SPAS BEHIND 80FT WATERFALL, FITNESS CENTER WITH SPA FACILITIES, TWO LANE BOWLING ALLEY, INDOOR ROLLER RINK, VIDEO ARCADE, 1/2 ACRE MAIN POOL DECK, CHILDREN'S WING W/ FAMILY RM, THEATER, ACTIVITY RM & COMPUTER RM, ADULT MOVIE THEATER W/BALCONY, 4 FIREPLACES, FORMAL DINING RM SEATS 30, EVERY FULL BATH HAS FULL SIZE JACUZZI. 160 TRIPLED PANED WINDOWS AND BRAZILIAN MAHOGANY FRENCH DOORS COST $4MM ALONE. HIS & HER OFFICE WITH 12FT TWO SIDED AQUARIUM. TRULY ONE OF A KIND PALATIAL HOME RESORT.The following resorts are part of the Westgate Resorts Franchise that are listed on the Westgate Resorts Website. This list will certainly be part of any proceedings on a David Siegel Bankruptcy, a Westgate Resorts Bankruptcy, or a David Siegel Federal Indictment or a Westgate Resorts FBI Investigation or Westgate Resorts Federal Indictment. Have Fun in Federal Prison Mr. Siegel. You do not have enough money to pay off the United States Federal Government.
If you are a victim of David Siegel , Jacqueline Siegel and Westgate Resorts Watch this video and Email us at vip@westerncapitalvip.com
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/3954571/10735429
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12/24/2008
An Open Letter to Westgate Resorts CEO David Siegel on Why You Sue Your Own Employees, by Robert Paisola
This is an open letter to Mr. David A. Siegel, The CEO of Westgate Resorts.
Mr. Siegel:
Millions of people around the world have seen the video that is now on youtube showing the massive estate that you own and the abundance of wealth that you portray to have.
We have some questions for you that we have not been able to get answers on from your staff including but not limited to Barry W. Siegel, Tom Dugan, Mark Waltrip and David Crabtree
We are concerned about the thousands of people that have contacted our offices and in an open forum explain how they feel that they were abused by your company. They feel that they received nothing for their money, and they feel that the properties that they "bought into" are completely sub par, as opposed to what they were promised.
We refer you to The Westgate Vacation Villas Town Center , Buildings SSS and PP. We will be posting interior and exterior photos later for our readers, so that they are clear on these "5 Start Luxury Accommodations" that you provide.
Next, we are highly concerned about a lawsuit that your attorney Victor S. Kline of GREENSPOON MARDER, PA filed in Osceola County, Florida entitled : WESTGATE RESORTS, INC. VS DOE, JOHN Case 2008 CA 008314 OC
For your review and to memorialize this letter, we are attaching the full complaint and attachments for our friends at GOOGLE and your clients, employees, prospective employees and most importantly, the potential purchasers at the following Westgate Properties including:
- Arizona
- Painted Mountain Country Club
- Harbour Beach Resort
- Blue Tree Resort at LBV
- Lakes Resort & Spa
- Leisure Resort
- Palace
- River Ranch
- Towers
- Town Center
- Vacation Villas
- South Beach
- Tunica Resort
- Branson Garden Inn
- Branson Woods
- Emerald Pointe
- Flamingo Bay
- Myrtle Beach Resort
- Smoky Mountain Resort
- Park City Resort & Spa
- Historic Williamsburg
Mesa
Florida
Daytona Beach
Orlando Area
Miami Area
Mississippi
Robinsonville
Missouri
Branson Area
Nevada
Las Vegas
South Carolina
Myrtle Beach
Tennessee
Gatlinburg
Utah
Park City
Virginia
Williamsburg
After the posting of the pages, we will submit our questions for counsel, Victor S. Kline and your Corporate Counsel Michael E. Marder
You will see that your company is claiming that some very senior employees in your Organization have been accused of serious torts:
You state" When an owner purchases a Timeshare Unit from Westgate, Westgate DOES NOT record any documents in the public records until the expiration of ten (10) days so that a purchaser HAS THE RIGHT to rescind ANY PURCHASE. After the ten (10) day rescission period expires, Westgate DOES NOT NOT RECORD ANY DOCUMENTS WHICH BEAR THE OWNERS HOME, BUSINESS ADDRESS, EMAIL ADDRESS OR PHONE NUMBER. An owner of a Westgate Timeshare unit is identified in the public records ONLY BY NAME and the address of the WESTGATE RESORT where the owner purchased an interest."
You further state" Defendant JOHN DOE, (Your employee(s) ) contacted Ana Garcia and Nicole Papanier, customers of Westgate who had already signed purchase and sale agreements. In the emails, JOHN DOE, made DISPARAGING COMMENTS about WESTGATE and advised Ana Garcia and Nicole Papanier how to rescind agreements with Plaintiff. The Emails were sent less than 10 days after Ana Garcia and Nicole Papanier had signed these their agreements with Westgate"
These comments in your public pleadings and our subsequent interviews with members of your staff (not Senior Management mentioned above) indicate that you have a policy of Prohibiting your employees from counseling the buyers whom enter into agreements with your company on how to follow their legal rights under State Code to Rescind any transaction that they make with your sales team "in the heat of the moment"
Further, we have been advised that you have a three step system to ensure that a customer DOES NOT CANCEL:
These are Raw notes from our investigation that we will be reporting on at a later date:
-Used to use Deja Wint and then in Nov 2007 switched to the MR system
" The contracts dept (appx 10 people entered - with only local data entered the information and the Deeding Department ( Villas 16-23 Employees ) One employee of the 23 personally entered One Million Dollars on books each month. This is typical. The industry avg cancel rate is 20-25 percent.
"We are told to do whatever it takes to keep "on the books" including ...
If contract is lapsed Past 10 days and if no full down payment or no first payment then all employees are PROHIBITED TO teach or inform victim purchasers how to to rescind contract.
In a search of all US County Court Records there is NO RECORD of ANY Foreclosure action against a buyer (victim) " We have been told time and time again that David Siegel will not foreclose, as he will simply keep the down payment and resell again and again and again. This is verified with the county recorders of the local jurisdictions.
All of this is also validated in the Deja Wint System/ MR System Data, and is used corporate wide to document all purchases with Westgate. The data in Deja Wint/ MR System Data, will clearly show that there is a common scheme or thread to defraud, as by reselling the same piece of property over and over, and by keeping all monies paid, by the purchasing victims, that the money will remain unclaimed and that the consumer will simply GIVE UP and that the BLANKET REFUSAL POLICY to refund money to buyers and to PROHIBIT employees from assisting the "least sophisticated consumers" in maintaining their rights will ensure continued profitability.
Think John Grisham's Movie 'The Rainmaker', in which he pits Rudy Baylor, a lawyer fresh out of law school, against Great Benefit Insurance and its lawyer Leo Drummond in a bad-faith claim lawsuit. What really made this book is the Black vs. Great Benefit case, and how an insurance company would bend over backwards to not get caught in its own lies.
This works because of the policy of the Deeding Department Agent not being able to file the legal deed , giving your company, Westgate Resorts, the ability to resell the same parcel again and and again.
"This is why we can provide credit to any warm body that shows, regardless of their financial situation, because we could care less if they pay"
Now, If no payments are made by victim for 6 months (on time ) then the paper can not be resold to banks. Siegel (sic) holds paper for six months and dumps it on the secondary market to the banks. "The aging is completely inaccurate, but nobody knows this, so the banks buy the high interest paper" (see Deja Wint/ MR System Data)
"We have three methods of collections internally"
1. Pending to Good --- in first 90 days if the victim buyer does not pay the down payment or any payment then the Pending to Good team will try to collect."
2. If No Success is made at this level, the the file is returned to the Original Closing Officer - if in 90 days a victim buyer is 10 days late on any payment then the Closing Officer must collect the payment himself or herself or "we do not get paid"
"Closing officers are required by David Siegel to have $50.00 to $150.00 per day WITHHELD from pay to cover high cancellation percentages."
"On all pending to good accounts percentage. 99 percent of officers loose 50 to 150 per day because of PENDING NUMBERS" (see future story)
3. Collections Department - Used to be called The Now Team - Customer Service is what they call it, but it is Collections.
We used to have "The Win Back Team: - the purpose of this team is to win back the lost business and to get accounts reactivated... to WIN BACK BUSINESS"
Based on the above comments and the lawsuit that you have filed wherein you are planning to depose a former employee, we at the timeshare chronicles are concerned about what YOUR OWN EMPLOYEES ARE SAYING. We are concerned about the failure to deal fairly with the public in not only Florida, but in Las Vegas. You can read our stories on the horror that our clients experienced in Las Vegas.
The bottom line is that we want answers. We want to know what you are intending to do as a corporation to deal with all of the names that have been entered into the Deja Wint System / MR System Data that are unhappy. We want to know how many people simply "lost" the money that they paid you and received nothing. We want to know WHY you prohibit your employees from helping your customers understand the laws of rescission. We want to know why The Mother in Law of your Senior Executive was hired, and why 6 qualified people were terminated. (story to come)
Mr. Siegel, this is not a game of smoke and mirrors.
This is real life and real people are loosing money because of the games that your company is accused of playing. The court records from around the country and the confidential settlement agreements executed between your company and employees, victims and even victims of sexual abuse are now available for the public.
The bottom line is .... WHY? Just for a big house?
We hope that you take the time to respond.
Regards,
Robert Paisola
CEO
The Western Capital Foundation
-If you are in a similar situation and need assistance, please watch the video at WesternCapitalMD.com and visit WesternCapitalVIP.com
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